The issue of mans true origins, is just one more of those "hot button" issues that we are faced with throughout our lives. From the time we are small children, being able to grasp intended meanings we are taught any variety of "explanations" or theories as to where man came from. The most common explanations of course being Evolution and creation. The former being taught in schools for decades and was pretty much the accepted version of mans origins. On the religious side we have the 6 days of creation theory where-by man was created on the 6th day by God himself, as were all other things on the various days..The idea that man evolved from monkeys was pretty abhorrent to most christians., and the ones that didn't believe in God were labelled as idiots, and probally monkeys anyway..!!!, and so the debate continues. Into the arguement now comes man being created by ET's, extra-terrestrials from some distant planet/Galaxy. There are so many theories out there, these being just a few of them that the debate is endless. If anyone has ever read the books by Zechariah Sitchin  , "The Earth Chronicles" it may cause you to pause and question your long held beliefs. At my last inspection it was a series of 8 books, beginning with the first book of the series entitled, The Twelth Planet. The book was an overnight sensation, and needless to say caused alot of controversy, which continues to this day. Most of the oppossition to the theories presented in his book is being rejected and assaulted by , who would have guessed it...the christian community. In their defense of what they concieve God to be, and their blind allegiance to their god Jesus, anything that however slightly misrepresents Jesus ,and the "truth" of mans origin and future destiny is anathema.. What if... maybe..just maybe, there is another explanation..Could it be possible..? One of my favorite writers/authors on the subject of mans true origins is Lloyd Pye. His books on the subject are to the thinking and reasonable mind irrefuteable.. I would highly recommend that the reader get his books "Everything You Know is Wrong, Human Origins Book 1 " . What we have been told as a society, and led to believe our whole miserable lives is a lie, and a blantant mis-representation of the truth. The reader cannot help but be drawn into the reasonableness and logic of his arguements.. For the analytical mind, the scientific data is impeccable.. Dare to challenge your long held beliefs with an honest and open mind..! In the last decade the field of genetics has exploded with new and amazing imformation about the human genome. We are on the verge of developing things that were only the subject of science fiction fantasy just a few years ago...Below, you will find just a few things to challenge your mind: ..The legitamacy of tampering with our genetic make-up, is over-shadowed by our personnal responsibility, and moral ,and ethical acountability to actually do it.. The issue today is not whether it is possible to manipulate our genetic make-up, but rather should we be “messing” with it at all.. ? For those of you who think that this is new territory for mankind, let me be the first one to pop your little happy bubble..I propose, and maintain that what scientists are doing right now, today, as we speak, was done many thousands of years ago,. If I was a betting man, I would say that the implications and end result will be the same in the not to distant future.. About 60 years ago, man in his brilliance discovered how to split the atom, with amazing results.. We have enough nuclear power available on earth today to destroy this planet and ourselves, it is estimated 10 times over, if not more, the number changes every year... When they were developing the A bomb, the same question was asked, “should we do this”, we know we can, but should we...? Today we have even more terrifying weapons than nuclear bombs..The planet is increasingly becomming irradiated, and polluted beyond hope..We are destroying our world.. Like so many other things in our world, we have maxed out our potential to be creatively ignorant.. Recently in the news global warming has reached the stage where scientists have pushed back the problems happenning in 1-200years from now, to a more realistic 10-15 years.. That is very conceivably in our lifetime..Dangerous implications for ignoring the inevitable.!!. Do you think they will listen..?  I don’t.. Yes, I realize you think I’m being paranoid, delusional, and alarmist..even so, the evidence is mounting, and every indicator says we have a very short time left in our lifetime, and that of our childrens to do anything about it...”If your not paranoid, your not paying attention”.. Knowing the nature of man, and the elitists who are controlling our society, I can conclude that the ones doing it, and have created it in the first place, have no intentions of doing anything to stop it..It is what they have been planning for., for millenia..One world, under their control. If billions of people have to die, which in all probability is exactly what will happen..so be it..!!! Just as long as it doesn’t touch them personnally..You however, can be considered acceptable losses in a greater cause..!! You are after all considered by them to be “useless eaters”.. We have fulfilled the “Peter principle”, and reached our highest level of imcompetence. The very fabric of human life, and life in general, is now at humanities disposal to manipulate.. The human genome is in its final stages of being mapped, if not completed, and the unified field theory, some have speculated, has been solved..the theory of all that is..So now, we have arrived at the point where we will make ourselves better...We have the secrets of immortality at our fingertips, the cures for all kinds of diseases, the creation of entirely new species is a reality. Human cloning is happenning now.. Wonder of wonders,....the creative genuises of science, have decided that the species of man is no longer good enough, so since we have this knowledge at our disposal, and “become Gods”...lets create an entirely new species of creature that is half man, and half animal..!! Better yet, lets make this beast a combination of several animals, and mix it with the human body. The variables are endless.. For those of you with an interest in mythology, you may remember the legends of the Greeks, Romans, Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians (Iranians) Summerians, Akkadians, Indian, and Chinese..etc. Virtually every nation and culture on earth has stories and legends of these mythological creatures. We also have written ,and visual examples of these things, left to us and discovered in tombs, ancient ruins, hidden archeology, statues, carvings, etc..the list is endless.. The general concensus for most people is that these things are fanciful fantasies, products of a deluded, overly religious mind, symbolisms, typical of our ‘”ignorant, immaginative, yet primitive ancestors”... These people beleived in Gods, and worshipped them, made images of them, fed them, and tended to their agriculture, built tremendous structures to them, and catered to them in every way... These Gods, were none other than the Annunaki we have mentioned earlier in these writings.. The creators of mankind, made in their image, and the ones from whom man was given very sacred knowledge of the sciences, astronomy, mathematics, writing, metalurgy, agriculture, etc, which things if the rest of the legend is accurate, were forbidden to be given to man.... Everything we have comes from them. It was too them that man was indebted. Their technology was light years ahead of anything we could conceive of. Certain men among this creation were chosen, and given these mysteries to hold and keep sacred. That traditon is held to this day, by what we know as secret societies,by any other name.. These elite individuals and societies are also the manipulaters of our world, and are the very same ones who will bring you the New World Order. The legends speak of the time when these created beasts walked the earth. It says the earth became corrupted because of these things, and  became void of goodness, and truth, and they defiled themselves in every way immaginable.. Let it be said that the downfall of every society of humanity in history, is precipitated by the corruption,,perversion, and defilement of the species..The society takes a wild and crazy ride to the top, and then comes tumbling down in an instant.. It seems logical for me to conclude, that these same Annunaki, were heavily involved in genetic manipulation. Not only does our own existence prove that, but the appearance of these creatures confirms it as well.. Half man, half goat, half man, half lion, Half man, half eagle, half man, half bull, half man, half fish, so many variations of mixed species that it defies immagination... You think its science fiction...?   The mythological Greek creature combining a lion, a goat and a serpent. In the myth...,the original Chimera,..It was Bellerophon, straddling the winged horse Pegasus, who finally slew the fire-breathing chimera.   The mixing of a human with an animal is known as a Chimera, or transgenic...We have arrived readers at the point of no return...There is nothing new under the sun.. National Geographic News....An article appeared recently that is causing a lot of controversy in the world, at least to those who are aware of its existence..The controversy surrounds Animal to Human, and Human to Animal genetic manipulation,Chimeras and hybrids...Some examples are as follows... 1.  Chinese scientists in 2003 have successfully fused human cells with rabbit eggs. Allegedly, they were the first human to animal Chimeras “ever” created.. This creation was allowed to develop and grow successfully for a few days before they destroyed the embyo’s...If left undisturbed, we can only assume it would have developed quite well.. 2.  Last year in Minnesota, researchers at the Mayo clinic created pigs with human blood flowing through their bodies. 3.  At Stanford university in California, an experiment is being prepared to later this year to create mice with human brains... I have researched this topic, and it was disclosed that this was already done, but they had to destroy the specimen, as the head was too big. (Needs a little tweeking). However, in Minnesota, there are mice as we speak looking through cages with human neurons firing in their brains. Up until recently, I never really cared what a mouse was thinking,...but now scientists are developing a mouse using human stem cells, that will have a 100% human brain looking out through their beady little black eyes...I can now say I give a shit what a mouse is thinking..!!! 4. Human ears can be grown on the back of mice. 5. Human organs can be grown on “scaffolding” from stem cells 6. Human genes have been placed in pigs in order to harvest the hearts and livers etc for transplants...known as xneo-transplations, being done as we speak. 7. Faulty human hearts, and heart valves, are routinely replaced with ones taken from cows and pigs..This practice which makes the recipient technically a Chimera, is widely accepted...no ethical dilemna there..Human genes are transplanted into the cows and pigs to allow for transplants without rejection, as the hearts and valves etc, are actually human, grown iside a pig or cow.. 8. Heres one for the books that is on the table, ready to be tried...Genetically engineer mice to produce human sperm and eggs, then doing in vitro fertilization to produce a real child whose parents are a pair of mice..!! 9. A man can now, or will very soon, be able to experience pregnancy...thats right, coming to a home near you, will be a man that can have a baby...In theory this is possible, even now goats have been formed using external “wombs”.. The trick now is to create a womb inside the man, regulate the hormones needed to sustain a pregnancy,..the rest is easy, and the baby could fully form and be delivered by C-section.. Yes it is possible, and probable.. 10. Through cloning, any variation of a family member can be replicated in yourself or grandchildren..There are virtually no limits..A mother can be her own daughter or granddaughter., basically a father isn’t even needed..!! 11. In Nevada, there are sheep whose hearts and livers are human. 12. In Scotland, sheep are being raised with human genes in their milk.. Sheep mamory glands are very receptive.. The idea being that just a 100 of these sheep will hold the cures for most of the worlds diseases, and is the alledged logic behind creating Chimeras, as these creations it is said hold the promise and cures of mans ills. The pharmaceutical companies have discovered that very complex drugs can be simply created by using Chimeras, that would be almost impossible to do any other way..This new technology is on its way to becomming pattented, which means very simply that it will be privately owned, and of course controlled by those who own the patents.. A book that was published in 1997 was a forerunner for expossing the technology that is a reallity today..It is titled “Remaking Eden” by Lee . M. Silver.  Alot of people when it first came out thought it was craziness, and science fiction...I don’t hear to many of them laughing anymore..This was only 8 years ago..What will the next 8 years bring..? An interesting point to bring up here is that our society, our scientists and researchers, are calling these things “creations”.. Have we now become the ‘Gods” that we insist are legends of the past..?, and didnt even exist..?  Do you really think it is so far fetched now..? Lets not stop at humans and animals though, we can even manipulate plant life, and have been for years...Well you say, yes I know that, they have been doing that for years..! Did you also know that it is common practice now to mix plant life with animal and fish genes.., or other marine biological life..? Not to mention all the genetically modified foods already on the market that we have been eating for years..Our entire food supply is basically genetically modified already, and controlled by a few companies... Yes, basically 5-6 companies control the entire worlds food and grain supplies.. For the most part if you want to be a farmer, you have to buy your seeds from some company like Cargill Grain, or  Monsanto Corp, who alone controls about 91% of the distribution of the worlds grain.., who have also been directly responsible for genetically modifying several variations of  grains etc..(.Known as GM, genetically modified) To bring this issue even more up to date, so that the reader can get a good “picture” of things....The US presence in Iraq has made several changes and addittions to the Iraqi lifestyle. Not the least of which is the devestation of the land and cities, and the irradiation of the land by the use of DU munitions (Depleted Uranium)...bullets, bombs etc..Not only is it in the works to “Privatize” the oil sector, openning up Iraq’s massive reservses ,and production capability to US and other western companies,.but ,this act will also set in place exactly what the people where oppossed to going to war for in the first place...OIL..!!!   In 1992, Dick Cheney’s Defense Policy Guidance Report stated... “ Our overall objective is to remain the predominant power in the region (Middle East), and preserve US and western access to the regions oil..” To add insult to injury, Iraqi farmers, that have been in the business of agriclture for literally thousands of years, will now be forbidden to save their seeds, to be used in another crop..!! If the legends are true, which I believe it is, and is verified by several credible sources, IRAQ is the original “Fertile Crescent”, in particular the area that the Kurds want to make their promised homeland...Kurdistan..!! This area is accepted by almost all scholars as the “Cradle of Civilization”.. What that means, is that this area in particular, played a paramount part in mans development, and origins.. It was here that civilization, cities, agriculture, the sciences, mathematics, alchemy, astromony, etc originated.. Which brings us back to the beginning of “You Know What”.!!! It has been credited to this area that domesticated animals ,and plants, seeds, etc were first developed..., by “You Know Who”...! The very same style of agriculture has been adopted by just about EVERY culture and society on earth, and has worked fine for thousands of years everywhere.. That is of course until the elitists decided that the worlds food supply also needed to be controlled..along with of course, massive deposits of oil.. This new policy in Iraq (everywhere really) is part of their new “economic reform” or re-structuring as its called, and was instituted by the Bush Administration.. The law literally forbids farmers from saving their seeds, and makes doing so a crime, punishable by fine, or imprisonment, or other un-specified penalties... In effect, it forces Iraq to conform to an already Internationally accepted standard of Protection...which is....”buy your seeds from Monsanto, or starve...your choice..!!! This law was instituted by “The American Administrator of the Iraqi CPA (Coalition Provisional Government) authorized by Paul Bremer..ALL farmers, will have to obtain a yearly license to plant crops, for gentically modified seeds (GM) purchassed solely from American Corporations.. These same seeds mind you, are typically, the exact same seeds that have been developed over thousands of generations, by the worlds indigenous farmers, like the Iraqi’s, from where all this technology came from in the first place...Only when they buy back their own seeds, which is now mandatory, they have been genetically modified. They are then forbidden to save any seeds from last years crops, and in fact they must be destroyed, or face penalties under the rule of law...Under the law, they then must buy every year seeds for their crops from “Monsanto” or another approved US owned or controlled supplier.. “Isn’t that special”...? After its all said and done, they still had a choice...your always left with a choice..  To continue our discussion on Chimeras: It is interesting to note that there are “natural” chimeras:   Incredibly, the most common chimera may be your mother. Scientists have recently discovered that some - and perhaps all - mothers have DNA from their own children circulating in their blood for decades after childbirth. In a sense, the mother inherits DNA from her children. This is clearly weird, but totally natural. And it’s often troublesome -researchers speculate that when the mother’s immune system tries to eliminate the foreign DNA, it can lead to autoimmune diseases like lupus and arthritis. Fraternal twins that share a placenta often have two different blood types, one from each twin, due to the mixing of their fetal stem-cells in the placenta. Its interesting to note that the man who cloned  Dolly the sheep, is also the one who was involved in creating Chimera sheep with human organs..however, the potential to missuse this technology is ever present... The knowledge is there to create the “monsters” out of Mythology if they want too.. They believe that by making it illegal, or forming moral and ethical judgements about it will somehow prevent it, or not allow it to go any further than it already has.. In my opinion, each step they take that perfects the process, takes them one step closer to actually doing it..because they can, not because they should.. The moral and ethical concerns fall to the floor when scientists rationalize the benefits to be gained by mankind from actually doing it.. What the scientists are finding out, or rather proving, is that every organ transplant that takes place, bone marrow transplant, blood transfusion, etc, in effect produces another Chimera in that other human that receives it. It essentially changes their  DNA, so that those new genes are passed on to his next generation.. Please note, that a chimera, and a hybrid are NOT the same.. Technically, a hybrid cannot reproduce, but are born sterile, as in the example of the offspring of a female horse, and a male donkey.. A Chimera is the actual mixing of genes from different species that can reproduce..I want to add at this point that Vaccines also have that same potential to create a society of chimeras due to the fact that the majority of vaccines are made with animal products, as is exampled by raising sheep to produce vaccinations...It can be said there-fore that the elitists who bring you this “Brave New World”, will have at their disposal all the sheeple they could possibly want, and ensure a renewable supply for decades to come..!!! Lets not stop there though..Very soon, coming to a grocery store near you, are human genes transplanted into food crops, allowing medicine to be virtually grown in the field. We already have fish, and other animal and marine life genes in several of our farmed crops, that is suppossed to make them less resistant to cold weather and disease, and even a gene from a particular jelly fish has been transplanted in crops that will glow under a special light, this tells the farmer the health of the crops, and disease can be detected early.. So you say....this is all good stuff..?  What happens in 50 years from now, when the entire human genome has been infiltrated by plant and animal genes, making all of us living Chimeras...More so than we are now..? Surprisingly, you may want to know that geneticists have discovered that: We are the strangest Chimera of all.. Hidden whithin our DNA are the pieces of our “animal” past..About 99% of our genes are the same as monkeys. If we transplanted any one of these genes, not one single thing would be changed. More surprisingly, over half the genes of a fly have been found in humans, and we share an amazing number of Genes with plants, and bacteria.. Even more strange is the fact that our entire DNA strand is riveted with viral genes, inserted by retro-viruses that infected many of our ancestors  cells. It is amazing that we have even survived as a species... Admitting our strange origins to ourselves could be a difficult process, and could lead us to several different conclusions. The one I seem to be keep coming back to, is that somebody, or something made us, by using genetic manipulation, and they had a specific idea in mind, when they put us together. Even more interesting, is that we seem to have a lot of “spare” genes, or extra genes that no-one knows what the use is, or even why they are there, but apparently, we inherited some genes from our progenitors...who if you accept the legend, mated with their creation, against the injunction, NOT to do so.. The past appears to be repeating itself again, as today, as we speak, man is in the exact same position, and doing the exact same thing that was done before..!!        Something is going to catch up with us.         I think we can be rightfully fearfull that with or without our knowledge ,we are being changed into something else..Genetically modified foods as well as medications, and vaccinations are prepared or cultured with animal properties and or protiens... Recently, it has been disclosed that the human stem cell stock, has been “infiltrated” by mouse protiens..Is this new news...? The article went on to say that in order for our stem cell supply to be protected, they must all be destroyed, and start over again..!! Like that will happen..!...Where does it stop...? How far will it go, before we start the inevitable downward spiral..I would say that Pandora’s box has been opened once again...and its too late to get the lid back on it..and truthfully folks...no-one wants to put the lid back on...The words echo in my mind, over and over like a bad dream... “those who forget the past, are condemned to repeat it”...If you chose to believe the story about life after the flood of Noahs day..all the people were gathered in one place, building a tower that would reach the heavens...in the legend, God came down and had a look around and said..(paraphrased) “this will not do at all...there is NOTHING in their minds that will not be possible for them...I will confuse their language, and scatter them throughout the earth”.. Man was truly not ready to receive the technology that the Annunaki were giving them, they had not earned it...they had already compromised inner truth...it must be stopped.. As then, so today, the worlds situation will reach critical mass, and then...”all hell will break loose”...or is this just another one of those pesky coincidences..? Ideas are a-foot, like it was , in the ancient world, and more recently in Hitlers Pre-war Germany, to create a super race...a super man and woman of sorts..Now that we have a fledgeling technology to create Chimera’s,and dramatically increase the human lifespan, and some are talking 1000 years old with no trouble.., imagine the possibilities of creating a man with the atrtributes of an animal, while being able to retain his human mind and thought processes, while at the same time, being able to think like an animal.. This year, they will be giving again ,a mouse ,the brain of a human..To think like a human, but in a mouse body.. Imagine a man with.the speed and reflexes of a cat, the strength of an elephant or Gorilla, the ingenuity and resourcefullness of a squirrell, the bite of a poisoinous snake, the underwater agility of a dolphin, perhaps a new breed of Aquaman with recessed gills and lungs both..There is no limit to what man is capable of doing..and that is the problem...!!!!  Why, in the world would anyone want to grow human sperm and eggs in a Rat/mouse, when technically the human that is produced has rodents for parents...litterally...!!! Creating a human in a Petri dish, and then taking that embryo, and putting it in the womb of an animal is at the doors..To think that an animal can now be the vehicle where-by a human being is born is macarbe. It is also a potential, very real reality.. The stories of the devil incarnate, are fueled by legends that the “dragon, devil, anti-christ, will be born of a Jackal..!! You know what...?, it is entirely possible now, to do just that..!! Form an embryo from a few cells in a petri dish, and implant that embryo in the womb of an animal, and the child can potentially be born full term.. This isn’t science fiction anymore..it’s a reallity..Lacking inner truth, and an awareness of self, and his own evil, man is capable of anything..and that is exactly what happenned in these ancient cultures. “Our experts and scientist stand over the ruins of desolate ancient societies, with pious faces, and ponder the eventuality of forgotten races and cultures, never thinking for a moment, that they are re-living the same scenario in a moment of forgetfullness. Thinking they are wise, surely, they will become fools, and bring shame on humanity, and themselves in the same manner as their predecessors.” Sixty years ago, the thought of going to the moon was absurd..People laughed at the idea and made jokes about it. They were arrogantly saying that man will never even be able to get into space.. In addittion to having probes searching outside of our solar system, we are detonating nuclear bombs on moving comets, for something to do while we plan for the manned voyage to Mars, and we are coming close, if not already reached, the point where we can bend space time to make it a short trip..If you cant accept that as being possible, you’ll never be able to explain how we can see galaxies with the Hubble telescope millions of light years away, and comprehend that some distant suns light has long been extinguised, thousands of years ago, but yet we still see the light coming from it..and the mass of the star..!!! Yes, man in his arrogance is at an unstoppable crossroads, or so he has deceived himself into thinking.. Author of the book, “Everything You Know Is Wrong”  Human Origins, by Lloyd Pye,  made some very interesting observations about Cheetahs,in an article he wrote, entitled, “Evidence For Creation By Outside Intervention”.. that I wanted to share with the readers here.. From the evidence, someone might be able to conclude, that what we have here, is a living breathing Chimera, that has remained unchanged since it first appeared... Interestingly enough,,the legends indicate that  these animals were companions, and Pets, of “The Gods”.. The expression “they are as different as Cats and Dogs, or apples and oranges”  may not apply anymore..  He writes..: QUOTE: Lloyd Pye e-mail    lloyd@lloydpye.com web site http://www.lloydpye.com All examples of plant and animal “domestication” are incredible in their own right, but perhaps the most incredible is the cheetah. There is no question it was one of the first tamed animals, with a history stretching back to early Egypt, India and China. As with all such examples, it could only have been created through selective breeding by Neolithic hunters, gatherers or early farmers. One of those three must get the credit. The cheetah is the most easily tamed and trained of all the big cats. No reports are on record of a cheetah killing a human. It seems specifically created for high speeds, with an aerodynamically designed head and body. Its skeleton is lighter than other big cats; its legs are long and slim, like the legs of a greyhound. Its heart, lungs, kidneys and nasal passages are enlarged, allowing its breathing rate to jump from 60 per minute at rest to 150 bpm during a chase. Its top speed is 70 miles per hour, while a thoroughbred tops out at around 38 mph. Nothing on a savanna can outrun it. It can be outlasted, but not outrun. Cheetahs are unique because they combine physical traits of two distinctly different animal families: dogs and cats. They belong to the family of cats, but they look like long-legged dogs. They sit and hunt like dogs. They can only partially retract their claws, like dogs instead of cats. Their paw pads are thick and hard like a dog’s, but to climb trees they use the first claw on their front paws in the same way a cat does. The light-coloured fur on their body is like the fur of a short-haired dog, but the black spots on their bodies are inexplicably the texture of cat’s fur. They contract diseases that only dogs suffer from, but they also get “cat only” diseases. There is something even more inexplicable about cheetahs. Genetic tests have been done on them, and the surprising result was that in the 50 specimens tested they were all, every one, genetically identical with each other! This means the skin or internal organs of any of the thousands of cheetahs in the world could be switched with the organs of any other cheetah and not be rejected. The only other place such physical homogeneity is seen is in rats and other animals that have been genetically altered in laboratories. (Cue the music from The Twilight Zone) Cheetahs stand apart, of course, but all domesticated animals have traits that are not explainable in terms that stand up to rigorous scientific scrutiny. Rather than deal with the embarrassment of confronting such issues, scientists studiously ignore them and, as with the mysteries of domesticated plants, explain them away as best they can. For the cheetah, they insist it simply cannot be some kind of weird genetic hybrid between cats and dogs, even though the evidence points squarely in that direction. And why? Because that, too, would move cheetahs into the forbidden zone occupied by You Know What. The problem of the cheetahs’ genetic uniformity is explained by something now known as the “bottleneck effect”. What it presumes is that the wild cheetah population—which must have been as genetically diverse as its long history indicates—at some recent point in time went into a very steep population decline that left only a few breeding pairs alive. From that decimation until now, they have all shared the same restricted gene pool. Unfortunately, there is no record of any extinction events that would selectively remove cheetahs and leave every other big cat to develop its expected genetic variation. So, as unlikely as it seems, the “bottleneck” theory is accepted as another scientific gospel. Here it is appropriate to remind scientists of Carl Sagan’s famous riposte when dealing with their reviled pseudoscience: “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” It seems apparent that Sagan learned that process in-house. It also leads us, finally, to a discussion of humans, who are so genetically recent that we, too, have been forced into one of those “bottleneck effects” that attempt to explain away the cheetah END QUOTE. After reading the above, well researched, article by Lloyd Pye, some carefull thought needs to go into your next discussion about evolution, and mans true origins.. I highly recommend that serious seekers of truth get his books, and read them. The reasoning is beyond reproach, and any intellectually honest person would be compelled to accept the logic used to prove the arguements. A persons only recourse would be to engage “Fundie Logic”, to save face, and never be seen again in any debate..